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		<title>4 Day Split Routine: Intermediate Level</title>
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			<description>Zef,
I thought the basic split included: 
- Chest, Triceps
- Legs
- Back, Biceps, Shoulders

I'm confused.

Rob</description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 09:21:49 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>On this four day split where would be the best day/s to slide in a cardio session? Any help would be great, cheers

Dave</description>
			<author>Dave</author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 12:56:25 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>i would think the best days 2 do yur cardio is on yur days off mate or a little bit be4 you hit the split programme</description>
			<author>neil</author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 15:04:11 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>I have this routine as one of my staple sessions throughout the year. I found that Cardio on Tuesday, Thursday &amp;amp; Saturday mornings worked best.</description>
			<author>colin</author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 15:56:32 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>Magic, thanks for the advice guys</description>
			<author>Dave</author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 17:59:13 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>The best time to do cardio is after any 3 sessions for 20-30 mins max. The reason is while weight training, you'll burn your glycogen stores and other energy stores. When you go to do your cardio, your body will have to hit the fat stores to keep you goin only if your keep your heart rate low enough to stay outta cardio fitness zone. Also its been proven that cycling medium intensity after training legs will help build size as it flushes the muscle with much needed blood i.e nutrients which ur legs need to grow. Only for ten mins or so will do, but its tough. Good luck.</description>
			<author>Mason</author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 18:09:10 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>i havent done weights since last october as i've been too busy playing football but i want to hit the gym for the summer and bulk up the upper body.

i presume this programme is ok? also, thinking of taking cellmass and/or nitrix by BSN, recommended by someone to me.

anyone know much about either of these questions?

thanks</description>
			<author>bm</author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 19:37:20 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>Usually when I workout I ensure that the muscle group is completely  burned out when I leave, usually a workout takes me around 60 - 80 minutes.

I have started using this workout in the hope i will bring better size results but feel that the bicep and tricep routines are simply not lasting long enough for me to still be feeling it 2 days after.

Can anyone give me some advice on weather this is better for building mass or should I revert back to working the muscle twice as much and aching for twice as long?

Thanks in advance</description>
			<author>Benn</author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 08:48:30 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>Mason,

Thanks for advise there, but what would happen if you did cardio after weights and you were in the cardio fitness zone? Ie, pushing it hard on the bike for 20-30 min's after weights?</description>
			<author>Jez</author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 09:31:36 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>A little confused:

1. On the first training session, start off light, do 1 set per exercise.
2. After a few weeks, perform 2 sets for each exercise. After around 3 months, perform a maximum of 3 sets per exercise.

And above the program it says:

4 sets of each exercise with 6-10 repetitions except where specified.

Can anyone clarify please?</description>
			<author>JM</author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 00:30:46 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>This is different to the other 4 day recommended routine on this site previously. Which one is actually recommended?</description>
			<author>James</author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 15:10:45 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>As in thread 10 I am a bit confused about the reps / sets.</description>
			<author>James</author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 15:11:27 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>best split routine is chest tris, back bis, legs shoulder, abs and core stability, and cardio thus giving u 2 days off, best taken after the back sesion and the carido session. Limit the levels of cardio to maximse muscle growth.</description>
			<author>scott</author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 23:44:43 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>Hey Jez,
Depends on wat yur goals are. If you trying to build up and are training in cardio zone your gonna need those much needed calories for the muscle to feed from to help bulk. But if you wanna cut up, still better to keep heart rate lower unless you specifically want to improve fitness and not bother with anything else.

Scott, honestly thats a crap split.... reason being, you train chest hard usually what... 3 exercises for say 4 sets x 10 reps, then triceps. Problem there is your triceps are gonna be fairly tired before you even hit them, therefore won't be able to overload them as good and work them individually.... same with back/biceps.

Best split if you have the time would be... back/triceps...shoulders/abs/core... rest...chest/biceps....legs...rest...rest.

That way each muscle can be worked maximally with full effort and plenty of rest until needed again. Give it a go..</description>
			<author>Mason</author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 23:58:15 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>FAO bm:

BSN make crap products that don't work. Cellmass is expensive and does not do anything close to what it claims and nitrix is a useless product that will never work and cost you a lot of money. Just eat loads of food and work hard in the gym.</description>
			<author>Will</author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 16:45:41 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>Mason

Re: Scott, honestly thats a crap splitâ€¦. reason being, you train chest hard usually whatâ€¦ 3 exercises for say 4 sets x 10 reps, then triceps. Problem there is your triceps are gonna be fairly tired before you even hit them, therefore wonâ€™t be able to overload them as good and work them individuallyâ€¦. same with back/biceps.


If you're triceps are fairly tired already it is easy to overload them. You may find it is harder to judge progression because your tricep routine will be affected by how hard you have done your chest that particular day so you won;t be able to judge your tricep performance as well.  

The problem is that the chest / tricep on same day may work for him and not for you. And even then it may work for him some days and then not work as well after a month, 2 months, 3 months etc.

Nature is a bitch to control!

I prefer splitting things up a bit more but ensuring good compound excercies. That way I hit some parts a couple of times but they should have recovered enough for me to judge progression when i hit them next.</description>
			<author>James</author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:27:00 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>I tried following spilt and it worked well 
chest/bi
legs
rest
shoulders/tri
back 
rest
rest

abs whenever</description>
			<author>ian mclachlan</author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:00:16 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>As always the basics are best, five day split, on each day one compound movement as below and then choose two isolation moves and complete 3 sets and they 3 sets on isolation moves but only take one set to complete failure!!

Day 1 Back - Deadlift

Day 2 Chest - Bench press

Day 3 Legs - Squats or Leg press

Day 4 Rest

Day 5 Shoulders - Miltary Press 

Day 6 Biceps - Barbel Curls (Straight Bar, as stimulates more muscle fibres)

Triceps - Skull Crushers or Tricep Extensions

Day 7 Rest

As always plenty of protein at least 1.5/2.0 Grams if you are looking to add mass and 4 to 6 litres of water a day.

All of the above is receipe to get HUGE :)</description>
			<author>Ashley</author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:34:21 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>Im finding it hard to get bigger can anyone help,below is my weekly training,am i doing to much?

mon
squats
calf raises
lunges                       5 sets on all excerises
bent over rows
seated barbell press

tues
bench press
close grip bench press
lying french press
bicep curl
ez bicep curl

wed
cycling about 20 miles

thurs
dead lifts
leg ex
leg curl
neck press
dumbell shoulder press

fri
dumbell bench press
seated ez french press
bench dips
ez preacher curl
dumbell preacher curl
wrist curls

sat 
cycling ocassionaly</description>
			<author>rob</author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:23:56 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>there are no exercises for your abs in this routine</description>
			<author>Andy</author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:29:53 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>also in workout 1 its titled chest/biceps with the exercise close grip bench press in it when doesnt that do tricep for than chest ??</description>
			<author>Andy</author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:30:59 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>for is supposed to be more*</description>
			<author>Andy</author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:31:27 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>I need some advice guys, i need to lose 12 lbs to bring my weight in line, as i am assessed as clinically obsese.  

I am currently training 3 days a week doing boxersize, weight based circuits and general circuits for over a year.  The training routine i have is 2hrs (one day), 1.5hrs (next day) then rest for 2 days then 1.5hrs, then rest for 2 days.

I have come to a point where my weight is at a stand still at 86kgs.  My diet has improved, i am taking thermobol and am finding it difficult to break the 86kg barrier.  All advice is welcomed.

Many thanks

M</description>
			<author>mike</author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:22:04 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>So on the first two exercises of work days, we do alight warmup say 10reps then say a set of 8reps with slight weight increase, then five sets of work set! reps of 8-10 slight weight increse on each of the last work sets!
Then rest of excerises! slight warmup, then two work sets of 8-10
Im i wright saying this! Please help</description>
			<author>Graeme</author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:47:25 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>all of the above advice is good,the key to success is changing your routine around periodically.basically speaking don't stick to the same routine for too long.i try to change mine for myself and my clients every 4-6 weeks therefore trying to avoid a plateau physically and mentally as lets face it the same routine can become boring!!
if you are looking to gain weight then the best best is to reduce your cv work to virtually nothing and increase your calorie intake,that in partnership with a good solid and progressive program can't really fail,as they say its not rocket science!!
if you are trying to lose weight i would advise cardio work of 3-4 times a week at a moderate to high intensity including interval training and classes like spin,again chop and change to avoid getting used to the same thing.
i'm just another person(Personal trainer!) giving advice but as one guy said what works for one doesn't always work for another so try a bit of everything until you find out what suits YOU!
and remember,its supposed to be fun!!</description>
			<author>chris</author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:14:36 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>Best way to lose weight is long, low intensity cardio. Like say walking or slow cycling and I don't mean really slow just so that you are not getting to out of breathe where you won't be burning fat. Work out your fat burning training zone(65% of max heart rate) and buy yourself a heart rate monitor. Keep your heart rate in your fat burning training zone for 45 mins to an hour 3 times per week. Maybe take in a Bodypump class or circuit class to tone up.</description>
			<author>Stuart</author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:27:22 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>Hey Guys, ive been training for 6-8 months now and have seen some results, but i have stoped training lately due to exams and lack of motivation, i train in my house and have a gym in my garage, my body fat percentage is high, would i burn fat by taking maximuscles cyclone and pack on size, or just pack on size?
i would appreciate it if you could write back.. thanks guys</description>
			<author>Michael</author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:10:15 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>Michael, bearing in mind I am no expert cyclone wonâ€™t make you lose body fat and unless you own a big mansion with well equipped gym I'm not surprised to hear youâ€™ve lost motivation especially with exams looming. 

Training at home is ok and does work for some people if they are well motivated, from a personal point of view, I feel more motivated being with others that train and being in a well equipped gym but again that personnel preference. I tried working out in my garage with weights and a bench but soon grew out of this basic equipment.

Bearing in mind you have only been training for 6 months you need to get back to your original motivation, every workout you walk into you must be 100% motivated concentrating on your form and the way you exercise the muscle groups of the day.

As you are a beginner without making this complicated you need to understand what type of body you have before training (ectomorph, mesmomorph) in order to do the right workout for YOU and obviously build the right nutrition level, i.e how many calories carbs protein etc. Are you a hard gainer, fat retainer etc.

There has been lost of discussion around the way beginners / hard gainers should workout, some say a two day split where you work the hole body at each training session with plenty of high intensity and some use a three day split or a push pull routine where you might  exercise say back and biceps 1 day and chest and triceps another.

In terms of losing body fat you will need to include cv to your week at least 2 -3 times a week if you can for 30 - 40 mins non stop 65% of your max heart rate. 220 minus your age is max heart rate.

Hope this is of some helpâ€¦.</description>
			<author>aaron</author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:07:53 +0100</pubDate>
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			<description>Hey, not sure if anyone could provide any advice.....have been doing this routine for the last 8 weeks and so far working really well. 

However i\'ve been told to vary exercises very slightly after 8 weeks. Is anyone to provide slight exercise alterations as to shock the system. 

Cheers,

Timmy</description>
			<author>Timmy</author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:51:58 +0100</pubDate>
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			<title>when to do cardio and how to put on mass and stren</title>
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			<description>I do cardio in the morning before work and do weight training after work.
 I try to stay on the lower end of my target heart range to condition my heart and lungs and burn some fat but not to much so I lose energy and mass.
 I found that training chest shoulders triceps on monday
 legs on wednesday and back and biceps on friday got me stonger and more mass because of the use of heavy compound movements ( no isolation stuff) I do abs after cardio sessions in the morning</description>
			<author>mike</author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 06:25:59 +0100</pubDate>
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